Marriage. Gay. Perspectives.
Let’s see if that blog title gets your attention.
I saw “The Bank Job” a while ago. It was pretty good. At the end I said, “Wow. If it weren’t for these sexual taboos or prudishness, none of this would have happened.”
There are taboos that should stay taboos. Like that whole “how to have sex with dolphins” thing. Damn you for making me aware of the existence of such a thing. You know who you are. T. Subtle, indeed.
But all the drama in the movie (based on a true story) was because of a fling, threesome maybe, plus politicians’ S&M fetishes.
Of course now there’s all kinds of talk about marriage and homosexuality and what not due to the recent legal ruling in California. A few months ago, the whole public park/restroom gay sex … kerfuffle was all over the news. I blundered into an article that showed the pictures, the mugshots, of a few men who had been arrested trying to solicit gay sex in a public restroom at a mall. I want to share these pictures with you. And then I have a point.
Um … on second thought that’s making me feel a little creeped out. I’ll just link to the news article:
There you go. Take a look at those men. What do you think? I mean, besides “Yeesh!”
These guys were arrested, have their pictures on the internet now for anyone around the world to see, are shamed and have a criminal record. They look very average on the scary side. But like regular middle aged-ish old white dudes, right. Are they trying to find sex in a public bathroom because they’re ashamed and can’t be openly gay?
I’ve been listening to the LSAT Princeton Review blog so now I’m second guessing every thing I say. I suppose some of them are probably married and so can’t set out for casual sex in a public way.
“Honey, I’m going down to the Cockpit for dinner and gay sex. Be back around 11:30.”
“Okay, dear. Oh. Don’t forget you condoms. Love you. Mwuh.”
Maybe some of them don’t consider themselves gay. Hm. But my point is, if the stigma for gayness weren’t so prevalent and virulent would these guys have been less likely to be looking for sex in askanky public bathroom, risking disease, violence, interruption, arrest, public restroom filth and man-cooties. Maybe.
I wonder if these guys were once the young gay swingers back in the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s. I mean, look at those guys! Definitely not do-able. Yet there they are for your viewing enjoyment.
And by the way, I do condemn public area sex. Bad. Bad horny people! No! No! Get a friggin’ motel room if you’re gonna act out like that.
I’ve heard a lot of views of marriage in the past few days.
A conversation today
I had an interesting conversation today with a friend who said everyone’s been focusing on the wrong thing. The government shouldn’t be involved with marriage at all, he said. Civil government should pertain to civil unions and marriage should be in the churches. The religious tradition of marriage should be in the appropriate institutions.
That kind of made sense to me. Because, the way the conversation is being defined, saying gay marriage is legal — due to the blurring of institutions — means that a Catholic church will have to perform gay marriage ceremonies. Or it implies that. Kind of. Does it? Maybe not. But private organizations do have the right to discriminate to a degree. I couldn’t join the girl scouts, for instance.
The guy on the LSAT podcast said that the ruling was not an example of “activist judges”. It was an extension of the non-discimination law. If you can’t discriminate based on sexual orientation then you can’t discriminate based on sexual orientation for civic marriages. The court was doing its job to provide checks on constitutional law.
“Metalocalypse” re: Marriage
Marriage has always been a black and public sore on human living.
Since the early 1900’s marriage has been spun by the vendors and marketers. The people that find it the most attractive are wedding planners, Crate & Barrel and the various religious organizations.
“Metalocalypse”, by the way, is a Cartoon Network show that runs as part of the Adult Swim lineup. It’s kind of a nihilistic, heavy metal comedy.
Focus on the Family Discussion
Federal government should be limited and states should have their right to legislate, but that model breaks down when it comes to currency, campaign finance, marriage. When you begin to redefine marriage, you devalue marriage.
I would ask them, what about capital punishment? That’s a matter of Federalism. But anyway, they say the country is going to fall apart if gay marriage is legalized. [sarcasm]Just like in Europe.[/sarcasm]
They subscribe to the slippery slope theory. Legalized polygamy is next, apparently.
Commentary – Melanie Scarborough: Gay marriage not physically possible
I don’t quite get her point.
Although a man and a woman may legally wed, the law does not consider the marriage valid unless it is consummated. A minister may have declared the couple husband and wife, the state may have issued them a license; they may share a name, a house, a bank account, and wear each other’s rings.
They may have engaged in various intimacies only Bill Clinton would not describe as sex. But unless the relationship includes the one act defining marital union, the marriage can be annulled because it is deemed to have never existed.
So regarding marriage, why wouldn’t it be a reasonable solution simply to apply the same rules to all couples — to say that unless a relationship can be consummated by a specific act, it cannot qualify as marriage?
Huh? I guess she’s saying that only vagina-penis sex legally counts as consummation. Don’t think that’s in California’s marriage law but who knows.
Late. Attention span … fading. Horribly unhealthy meal … consumed too close … to bedtime. Losing consciousness. Dyspeptic sleep … commencing.
With my last gasps of consciousness, I say the following. Conservative Christian organizations need to get off of their doughy, pasty asses and get out there to uplift people who need help. Homelessness. Inner cities. Illegal immigrants. Unchecked capitalism and greed. Ecological abuse, responsible use of resources. Divorce and unhealthy marriages within the churches. The Family.
Gay marriage isn’t going to destroy anything. I think it’s going to be as banal as hetero marriage in a bit. Too often immature people in love with the idea of being in love. Trying to complete themselves and fill an existential void with another person. High on infatuation and passion and then disillusioned and overwhelmed by the realities of a life long commitment.
Love being more than a feel good emotion. Love being a decision-choice, a discipline and work. Our generation does not excel at these things.
Having said that, to all of my friends who are married and having kids (or not), rock on. A strong culture and society is built on the foundation of strong families. You are the backbone and I wish you marital bliss and success. I have much respect and love for you.
I hope to join you some day. With a big ol’ family.
|Currently listening :
Season of Changes
By Brian Blade Fellowship
Release date: By 2008-05-06